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    Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    And he goes to SECOND BASE for the out???? Are you flipping kidding me? This shouldn't be artificial intelligence, it should be artificial stupidity. No pitcher in the history of baseball has done anything but at least try and go home on that play. Unreal.

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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    Quote Originally Posted by mr3856a View Post
    No pitcher in the history of baseball has done anything but at least try and go home on that play. Unreal.
    I don't think that's true. If there was one out, and depending on the angle of the ground ball, perhaps he was going to second for the double play? Maybe the runner on 3rd ran with the pitch, or the guy on 1st was slow as molasses.

    Not saying it's likely, but it's at least possible.
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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    I agree with CF, the pitcher may have no play at home or a chance for a double play at second.

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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    Quote Originally Posted by Lex Logan View Post
    I agree with CF, the pitcher may have no play at home or a chance for a double play at second.
    Yes, but I still think it happens way too much.
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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    I'll watch for it, never really noticed.

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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    Quote Originally Posted by Lex Logan View Post
    I'll watch for it, never really noticed.
    Yeah, this isn't the first time I've seen it happen.

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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    Quote Originally Posted by mr3856a View Post
    And he goes to SECOND BASE for the out???? Are you flipping kidding me? This shouldn't be artificial intelligence, it should be artificial stupidity. No pitcher in the history of baseball has done anything but at least try and go home on that play. Unreal.
    Here is a similar play but not with the bases loaded with men on third and second and 1 out. He should've thrown home but threw to first.



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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    While we're on weird baserunning things, I don't know how many times I've seen runners on the corners with 1 or 0 outs, a ground ball to third, and the runner at 2nd forced, but the runner at 3rd stay there, even though the double play isn't turned - he really should head home.

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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    Quote Originally Posted by Josh123123123 View Post
    Here is a similar play but not with the bases loaded with men on third and second and 1 out. He should've thrown home but threw to first.



    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/video...ent_id=6911855
    Yeah, but in that situation there's no force at home. He could reasonably believe the play wasn't at home. When the bases are loaded you have to at least try to come home. This was a tie game in the 7th no less.

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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    While we're on weird baserunning things, I don't know how many times I've seen runners on the corners with 1 or 0 outs, a ground ball to third, and the runner at 2nd forced, but the runner at 3rd stay there, even though the double play isn't turned - he really should head home.
    Or a runner on second, a grounder to the left side, and he either advances or tries to and gets thrown out (I see the former more than the latter). I guess both of those could be chalked up to bad baserunning, but it's befuddling.

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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    Quote Originally Posted by mr3856a View Post
    Or a runner on second, a grounder to the left side, and he either advances or tries to and gets thrown out (I see the former more than the latter). I guess both of those could be chalked up to bad baserunning, but it's befuddling.
    That's at least plausible, though (grounder to the left side with the runner on 2nd advancing)

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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    I had bases loaded 1 out and they got the out at 3rd on a grounder to 1B.

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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    Quote Originally Posted by ewing6 View Post
    I had bases loaded 1 out and they got the out at 3rd on a grounder to 1B.
    Only way that would make sense is if there's a lefty first baseman, and there's a dribbler down the first base line, making a play to home awkward but a play to third easier.
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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    Ive seen many times guy on 3rd, less than 2 outs and infield is back, and a grounder to SS or 2B won't score him
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    Re: Bases loaded, less than two outs, grounder back to the pitcher

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    That's at least plausible, though (grounder to the left side with the runner on 2nd advancing)
    I should have been more specific, I was actually talking runner on 2nd and nobody on 1st. You shouldn't try to advance on a ball in front of you (to the left side of the infield) in that case. Still, people do it in real baseball.

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