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    2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    Figured I'd start this a bit earlier than last year because....why not? Also because the season ends a bit earlier than it did last year.

    The goal of this thread is to assemble a general list of candidates for each of the more "esoteric" awards we will be voting on. The standard awards like MVP, Cy Young and such will be left out, as their candidates are more obvious, so to speak, and the criteria is relatively well-defined. This is more geared toward the comeback player and breakout awards and such.

    Following is a list of the awards for which I'd like to assemble a list of candidates. Note, though, that come voting time, you're free to vote for anybody, not just the players we list here. This is more to just assist others and get general ideas. I'd like to keep any rankings and such out of this discussion...just focus purely on gathering possible candidates and discussing why or why not they qualify for consideration. I will keep a running list in this post of names that come up and are generally agreed upon.

    Award List:
    Comeback Player of the Year
    Breakout Position Player of the Year
    Breakout Pitcher of the Year
    Esteban Loaiza Award
    Brady Anderson Award
    Derrick Turnbow Award

    Award Description:
    Comeback Player of the Year - Given to a player in each league who has "re-emerged" during the season, be it from a period of poor play or injury-riddled seasons.

    Breakout Player of the Year (Position Player/Pitcher) - Given to a non-rookie in each league who has in this season taken the next step into becoming a star Major Leaguer, fulfilling or exceeding expectations held for that player. Candidates should be judged by both excellence in the given year, and expectation to continue that success going forward.

    Esteban Loaiza Award - Given to the starting pitcher who performed at a level completely unexpected for that year by most reasonable predictions. Candidates should be judged by both excellence in the given year and also by the unpredictability of said excellence.

    Brady Anderson Award - Given to the position player who performed at a level completely unexpected for that year by most reasonable predictions. Candidates should be judged by both excellence in the given year and also by the unpredictability of said excellence.

    Derrick Turnbow Award - Given to the relief pitcher who performed at a level completely unexpected for that year by most reasonable predictions. Candidates should be judged by both excellence in the given year and also by the unpredictability of said excellence.

    Please use your best judgment separating breakout players from players for the Loaiza/Anderson/Turnbow awards. Breakout players could reasonably be expected to continue succeeding at the level they played at, while candidates for the latter trio of awards should probably be expected to regress heavily in the future. Breakout candidates should have displayed some level of excellence in the near-past (Ben Zobrist 2008) or have the pedigree and youth to back it up (Alex Gordon 2011). For the Loaiza/Anderson/Turnbow award trio, players will generally tend to be veterans or older players that came out of nowhere and shouldn't be expected to continue at that level in the future.

    I have started the lists of with players after a quick run-through of the league.

    Candidate List: (not separated by league)

    Comeback – Eric Chavez, J.P. Howell, Alex Rios, Adam Dunn, Jake Peavy, Shin-Soo Choo, Justin Morneau, Joe Nathan, Kendrys Morales, Adam LaRoche, David Wright, A.J. Burnett, Ryan Dempster, Buster Posey, Aaron Hill, Joe Mauer, Jason Heyward

    Breakout Position Player – Austin Jackson, Alcides Escobar, Mike Moustakas, Michael Brantley, Trevor Plouffe, Josh Reddick, Mark Trumbo, Ian Desmond, Andrew McCutchen, Pedro Alvarez, Jose Altuve, Melky Cabrera, Paul Goldschmidt, Dexter Fowler, Chase Headley, Adam Jones

    Breakout Pitcher – Chris Sale, Jonathan Niese, Lance Lynn

    Esteban Loaiza - Kyle Lohse, Chris Capuano

    Brady Anderson – Edwin Encarnacion, Carlos Ruiz, Justin Ruggiano, John Jaso, A.J. Pierzynski

    Derrick Turnbow - Fernando Rodney

    Note: You may think that a player listed under the Breakout category more accurately fits into one of the latter three awards. Come voting time, you're of course free to use your judgment when deciding what players belong under which category. Due to the nature of the awards, it doesn't make sense to think that a player qualifies for both the Breakout award and the Brady Anderson award, but you may think that he belongs under the Breakout category while somebody else thinks he belongs in the Anderson category, which is fine. When voting, place the players where you feel they most accurately belong.

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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    Brady Anderson Award should be a runaway for Ryan Braun

    The guy was destined for a .200/.300/.350 season after no longer being able to dope up and without all that protection in his lineup after Prince left

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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    Here's my first selection of candidates from a brief look through the league:

    Comeback – Eric Chavez, J.P. Howell, Alex Rios, Adam Dunn, Jake Peavy, Shin-Soo Choo, Justin Morneau, Joe Nathan, Kendrys Morales, Adam LaRoche, David Wright, A.J. Burnett, Ryan Dempster, Buster Posey, Aaron Hill

    Breakout Position Player – Austin Jackson, Alcides Escobar, Mike Moustakas, Michael Brantley, Trevor Plouffe, Josh Reddick, Mark Trumbo, Ian Desmond, Andrew McCutchen, Pedro Alvarez, Jose Altuve, Melky Cabrera, Paul Goldschmidt, Dexter Fowler

    Breakout Pitcher – Chris Sale

    Esteban Loaiza - Kyle Lohse, Chris Capuano

    Brady Anderson – Edwin Encarnacion, Carlos Ruiz, Justin Ruggiano,

    Derrick Turnbow - Fernando Rodney

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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    Lucas Luetge for the Turnbow.
    Carlos Ruiz and John Jaso (And his 151 RC+) for the Brady Anderson
    Paul Goldschmidt and Mark Trumbo for breakout players.
    Joe Mauer and Jake Peavy for comeback player
    Chris Capuano for Loaiza
    Jon Niese for breakout pitcher

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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    Lance Lynn for breakout pitcher.
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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    John Rauch for turnbow

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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by ewing6 View Post
    John Rauch for turnbow
    Why? His year looks exactly like 6 of his 7 previous seasons.

    Less hits allowed, but overall results are right in line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Why? His year looks exactly like 6 of his 7 previous seasons.

    Less hits allowed, but overall results are right in line.
    Yeah, nvm, should have looked at his past stats closer maybe because I was expecting him to suck much like last year, so it was a surprise for me :P

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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    chase headley and adam jones for breakout. AJ pierzynski for brady anderson

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    Mike Fiers for breakout pitcher.
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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by MichelleWie View Post
    Mike Fiers for breakout pitcher.
    Fiers is a rookie

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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    Chipper Jones for Comeback? OPS almost 100 points higher than the last 3 years and OPS+ 20 points higher that the last 3 years.

    Jason Heyward for Comeback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by free2131 View Post
    Chipper Jones for Comeback? OPS almost 100 points higher than the last 3 years and OPS+ 20 points higher that the last 3 years.
    A final year resurgence from a 120 OPS+ to a 140 OPS+ doesn't really feel like a "comeback" to me. Seems like normal ebb and flow of a career.

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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    Just putting some names out there for turnbow: Tom Wilhelmsenm, charlie furbush, jarrod burton, craig stanmon,

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    Re: 2012 Sports Mogul Awards - Preliminary Candidate Discussion

    A late addition but Oliver Perez should be on the Turnbow list.

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